A Word for Wednesday
A friend recently suggested that I use more Scripture references to support my assertions. I actually have reasons for not doing so. First, this is a blog and not a white paper or academic thesis. Nor is it a sermon. My hope is to encourage those who struggle, particularly against legalist and abusive influence, to find help and comfort in their relationship with Jesus. Second, I usually find that those who disagree with grace love to engage in Scripture battles and have no intention of being convinced by Scripture.
However, I also realize that there are those who welcome the teaching of grace and want to find support for this blessing in the Scriptures. For the most part, that is found in my books.
No teacher should be offended or anxious about being asked to provide Scriptural foundations. If what I teach cannot be found in Scripture, you should certainly question and/or reject it. So, I invite you to study the Scriptures to see if what I say is correct. I also invite you to ask me the old question: Where stands it written?
The following is something I wrote for another discussion. You may find it helpful.
TLDR: The old man (old you) is dead. Your flesh is the way you learned to live before Christ. Sin, in the life of the believer, happens in the flesh. You are no longer held accountable for sin in the eyes of God because your identity is in Jesus. You may well be held accountable for sin in this world because your flesh is part of this world.
I understand that this discussion can be confusing. We are considering things beyond our ken, as they say.
I suspect that there is a purposeful integration of the concepts of flesh as physical body and flesh as the way of doing things apart from the Lord. Both are of this world. Both continue to be active in this world. Both are passing away. Both will be left behind.
So, consider these things: First, the flesh is not the “old man.” It is clear that the old man is dead. The old man was our identity apart from Christ. The flesh is, as some say, the old man’s way of doing things. It is what we learned and adopted apart from Christ. The old man “was crucified” Rom 6:6, “grows corrupt,” as dead things do, Eph 4:22, and has been “put off” by the believer Col. 3:9. Paul says nothing like this about the flesh, at least not in past tense. He does refer to the flesh having been crucified in the believer, but in the same way he refers to the world having been crucified to us. There he does not mean they are dead, rotting, and gone. He means they are no longer part of our life because our life is in Jesus. Gal 5:26, 6:14
Second, we are repeatedly told that we are no longer in the flesh: Rom. 7:5,8:9, etc. This is one point where the integration I mentioned enters in. Paul refers to his continued earthly existence as time in the flesh, but he wants us to understand that this is temporary and that this world is truly no longer our home. We are in Christ, not in the flesh. For Paul, as for many martyrs, this integration carried them through even the destruction of their bodies. They died knowing that they had already died. Our life is no longer in this physical world nor in the things of this world.
Third, we may, however, walk in and according to the flesh: 2 Cor 10:3, Gal 5:16-17. It certainly seems possible, according to Paul, that a believer could fulfill the desires of the flesh by not walking in the Spirit. Why? Because the old way of thinking and acting still influences our choices. We are continually told to treat our flesh as we treat the world, as though they were dead to us. We are not to choose the ways of the flesh or the world. They will be shown to be dead to us at the end, even though they might continue to influence our decisions. So, Paul commands us to choose Jesus over the flesh, to walk in the Spirit rather than the flesh, to “make no provision for the flesh.”
Fourth, I realize that people read Romans 7 differently, but I believe Paul is talking about his daily life as a believer. He describes what all of us suffer when we speak and think honestly. Rom 6:19 is an active admonition to those who have come to Jesus for salvation. He says that their flesh is weak, which indicates that it is susceptible to temptation and, by extension, open to sin. As he continues in chapter 7, he acknowledges that there are two influences in his life (v. 25), his mind which has been renewed by the Spirit and his flesh which has not. Previously, in verse 18, he says that there is nothing good in his flesh. Why mention it if it is no longer part of him? He does not refer to the old man in the same way. The old man is dead.
Fifth, that brings us back to the nature of the flesh. Some suggest that it is entirely physical, patterns in the brain that have not yet adapted or yielded to the Spirit. Some suggest it is a more “soulish” thing but still connected to this world. I’m not sure that matters if the struggle is still the same. We are to focus on the Spirit and learn new perspectives and patterns to guide our living, to have our minds constantly renewed and conformed to that of Jesus. The daily struggle of the Christian life is to keep our focus on our Lord and away from the things of this world. That struggle has many manifestations of course. Some of it comes from the outside, from the attacks of the evil one and the temptations and influences of the world. Yet, we must acknowledge that some of that struggle comes from within us, from something that is still connected to and attracted by evil. It is not us, as I strongly teach, but it is certainly within us. And, I think, we must acknowledge that this thing within us is active.
So, what is that? I call it the flesh because that is the word used in Scripture. It is so much connected to our old identity that most Christians are taught they continue to battle the old man every day. They are torn between two opposing natures and hope only for release at the end. I think that is an error. The old man is dead, but the flesh (the old man’s way of thinking and acting) continues to have influence. If this is not true, then we have no good answer for the sinful actions in which we participate.
What part of us sins? I will be the first to say that sin is no longer laid to our accounts, but I will not say that we do not sin. I have never met a believer whose life bears out that assertion. I have met believers who grieve because of something they have done while they are believers. Either they lost their salvation as they did that thing, or something within them, something so close to them as to be identified BY THE WORLD as them, was culpable. Again, I believe that is the flesh.
Thus, we are no longer held accountable for sin in the eyes of our Lord, but we are accountable for sin in this world. We may pay a serious price for sin in this life, even though it does not affect the new life we have in Christ. Also, our Lord might allow consequences for sin in the flesh, consequences in this world, so that our hearts are drawn back to His love. Our identity remains clean and washed by the blood of Jesus, as Paul says in 1 Cor 6:11, perhaps even while we serve appropriate prison time for crimes in this world.
Now, I continue to study and to learn about these wonders. I would not suggest that I have final answers, nor do I quickly accept the final answers of others. This is simply the understanding that seems most in line with the plain reading and practical application of Scripture. It is also a perspective that is very helpful in daily Christian living. In Romans 7, Paul refers to sin that lives within him. Where does that sin reside? Will it continue to live in us in glory? I think that sin is active in the flesh and will pass from us forever when our connection with this world is finally done.
No wonder that will be a day of great rejoicing!









